Thursday, July 02, 2009

Same Old

Brandon Root of the Spiteful Critic makes a compelling case...

Hold On, I've Seen This Before: How Star Wars, (new) Star Trek , The Matrix, And Harry Potter Are Actually The Same Movie

Is there nothing new under the sun?


At July 02, 2009 2:15 PM, Blogger CrazyBunnyLady said...

There is nothing new under the sun.

At July 02, 2009 4:12 PM, Blogger laura b. said...

I do think there are a lot of archtypal themes and characters that crop up over and over again in literature...and thus, in other forms of storytelling too. Seems like people sort of like the comfort of seeing something they are familiar with and understand...

At July 02, 2009 4:28 PM, Blogger Chuck said...

Sorry to be the skeptic but I found his analysis overly broad. It was fun to read and he wrote it well but still too generalized.

At July 02, 2009 5:32 PM, Blogger cube said...

CrazyBunnyLady: Yeah, it was a rhetorical question.

Laura B.: Archetype is the operant word here. I mean, who wants to see the hero fail at his or her quest and die a miserable death?

Chuck: No need to be sorry. It was quite broad, I agree. Notice that it was the new Trek that was included in this analysis and not the old, more complicated Trek.

At July 02, 2009 5:47 PM, Blogger Ananda girl said...

That was amusing. He makes some good points. I'm afraid that the truly new story line is a rare bird.

At July 02, 2009 6:35 PM, Blogger jan said...

Why work for originality when all those proven winners are there for the picking?

At July 03, 2009 12:09 AM, Blogger crazy4coens said...

The powers that be feel that they will only make money on old, worn and torn ideas. They will not fund ideas that are original and delightful. We are the losers.

At July 03, 2009 11:38 AM, Blogger cube said...

Ananda Girl: Like laura b. mentioned, people do feel comfortable with certain themes.

Jan: All four of these movies made a lot of money.

Crazy4coens: At least these 4 movies aren't remakes. Those are the very worst.

At July 03, 2009 12:28 PM, Blogger crazy4coens said...

true that!

At July 03, 2009 9:02 PM, Blogger Caz said...

He's not saying anything new.

The monomyth, the hero's journey, is a thoroughly documented and well understood cookie cutter story arch.

It works, people like these stories.

The four examples he gives are the least of it.

At July 05, 2009 7:53 AM, Blogger birdwoman said...

Of course the general idea is not new. It's the implementation of it. Think machines - there are what, 3 different simple machines? Everything else is variations on the theme?

Why everybody gotta be a hate-ah?

At July 06, 2009 10:03 AM, Blogger Nicole said...

Like someone mentioned about machines, there are only 3 major plots: Man vs. Man, Man vs. Animal (monster), Man vs. God (machine).

I'm never so much concerned with the plot because I already know it. My entertainment rides on the story, the way it unfolds, the strength of the telling and the variation of the theme.


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